I started container gardening a month ago and it’s time for an update and some new photographs. It’s been an important first month! During this time I’ve made some interesting errors of judgment and all in all it’s a positive move forward. I’m not a gardener and know very little about growing vegetables (or growing anything for that matter) but I’m determined to learn and to make a success of this.
I discovered a problem after a short period of time, pests! Something was eating holes in my brand new plants – how dare it! It must go!
So, after much searching on the internet I found information on an organic pest product called Neem. I felt like a detective, I found something that is organic and is supposed to work well. With a degree of excitement I hunted some down and went and purchased the product.
Initially I found it for just under $10 at the local Mitre 10 but it wasn’t until I was reading the label properly, after paying for the item, that I realised it was not for use on food bearing plants.
Feeling somewhat confused after all the positive reviews I had read about it I took it back to the helpful store guy who went through other products I could use. He mentioned my predicament to a colleague and reported back that the Neem product is highly toxic. Huh? That’s not what I had read on the net this very day.
In the end I brought some Derris dust as it appeared it was the only organic pest product available. However I didn’t get to use the Derris.
After leaving the store I went to the nearest garden center and lo and behold they had Neem for food bearing plants at $20 a bottle. (It’s concentrated so it should last a long time). I don’t usually purchase from this garden center as they are on average 25% more expensive than the Mitre 10 and other stores that sell veggies and gardening products. However, I’m glad that I did as it appears it’s the only place in the area that sells this product for veggies.
On reading the label it mentioned that there is no withholding period on it at all, which for those that aren’t aware (I wasn’t) means you can eat it the same day you spray it. So, figuring it was safe I thought I’d better get a handle on the annoying bugs in my container garden. Primarily Passion Vine Hoppers and an unidentified creature laying it’s eggs on the underside of some of the silver beet, capsicum and broccoli leaves.
I made it up to the correct proportions but evidently used too much as within a day or two the leaves of my treasured plants were dying and looking blight stricken on the edges!. Oh no! So, after another couple of days I pinched off the leaves in question which left me with a pretty pathetic looking container garden, where once fine leaves had been.
Wellll, I’ve learned from that lesson that’s for sure! I’m going to spray some on tomorrow (it stops the life cycle of the bugs in question) but I’m going to use it in much smaller quantities and keep a wary eye on the results. Interestingly enough the overdose of Neem that I gave my plants affected some but not others. The Capsicum is still very healthy, as is the Tamarillo and the herbs! There appears to be no rhyme or reason for this!
Here are some photos of the current state of my container gardening plot. I realised that I probably should have separated the perpetual spinach plants as they didn’t seem to be doing much bunched together in one pot. So, after dividing and repotting I have some rather sorry looking spinach plants, however I’m hopeful that they will pick up over the next couple of days.
I’ve also planted some new tomato plants as the Neem had obviously damaged the original ones I planted beyond repair, one died and two didn’t grow at all for three weeks. I am going to need to support the new ones with a stake as soon as they grow larger. I’ve been collecting sticks and branches from dead trees for this, after purchasing a few bamboo stakes and realising that was probably a waste of money. One has to be frugal of course!
This is my herb garden – it’s coming along beautifully, the herbs are growing more each day, although the Oregano is a little stunted in it’s growth, maybe it just grows slower? That’s something I’ll have to check out.
These are my dwarf beans and snap peas. The peas were probably not a good idea as according to the packet they require support. But, as the packet was from my last failed attempt at planting some veggies (at an old residence which I moved from quite suddenly) I felt compelled to try them so they don’t go to waste.
That rather large plant you can see just in the right area is my Tamarillo – it’s grown so much! It really seems to like my garden. If it continues at this rate it will be massive before I know it!
This is my potting area. I decided to make use of the old barbecue area as I probably would never use it and the barbecue itself was rusted out. The area to the left is ideal for potting and to the right for my herbs. They appear to be doing well there too!
There are lettuce plants on the wooden chair and capsicum below the herbs. They are doing well too, the capsicum fruit grows quickly I’ve noticed. There’s a lemon tree (that’s ideal for containers apparently) to the right of the chair.
I’m looking forward to tasting the first fruits of my garden, that’s for sure!
To end on a frugal note I’ve managed to get all these pots (apart from four very large ones that are obviously brand new) through freecycle. I have 70 pots now with veggies in them and a few more ready to go when the seeds I’ve planted today are ready. What a substantial saving this has been! I’m making plant identifiers from cut up opaque plastic milk bottles too, and using a permanent marker which does so far seem to be permanent.
Although initially this project has cost me about $140 the next growing season will necessitate buying only seeds. The compost has been expensive, I’ve brought 7-8 bags of it so far but as I don’t have a compost heap I can’t do much about that.
I am however going to look for one of those cement mixer type compost bins as they are compact and they don’t smell. I’ll post about it here in due time. Thanks for reading and if you have any information to share please do, the more the merrier!






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Hi, Amanda, I followed you over from the Wisebread forums to take a look at your garden–it looks really great so far! Your soil looks really good–a necessary investment, really.
One thing to keep in mind to keep it going strong is that container plants require more water and fertilizer than those planted in the ground. My brother-in-law’s mother-in-law grows fantastic, huge, productive veggie plants in containers, but she sometimes has to water twice a day during the middle of the summer.
Also, in general, biggest is always better as far as final pot size goes. Ideally, 5 gallons is a good size for tomatoes, peppers, squash, and other large plants, and even the smaller ones will want 2-3 gallon containers. So continue to keep your eye open for larger containers–I know that kitty litter tubs show up on freecycle around here and are roomier than 1-gallon nursery pots. I’ve also seen people do well with old rubbermaid-type storage bins.
For your peas, you can just put one well-branched thin branch in each pot. Peas don’t produce a whole lot per plant (maybe 6-8 pods), unfortunately, but they do have one nice quality, and that is that they are shallow-rooted and don’t require a lot of soil volume to thrive. Pole beans, on the other hand, can produce quite a lot from each plant over a long period of time. Blue Lake is my favorite pole bean–excellent quality and very productive.
As far composting–if you’re just doing kitchen scraps and so on, you can make a nifty frugal composter out of a plastic storage bin with a tight lid. Use a drill with a 1/4 bit to drill holes all over it–lots of holes! including a few on the bottom. Shake it or flip it over every day, and it will compost like a dream. Some people get obsessive about ratios in their compost, but really the most important thing is to strive for some sort of balance. Kitchen scraps and other “wet” compost are “green,” and these need to be balanced off with drier “brown” material like dead leaves or even shredded newspaper or straw. Keep it moist but not soggy.
Hi Kathryn
Thank you so much for your comment and advice! You’ve covered the things I was concerned about.
The pot sizes for example, I was wondering if the plants were going to have sufficient size. I don’t want to waste them and at the same time need to be frugal so I’ll see what I can dig up through freecycle. There’s also a resource warehouse nearby, I have been meaning to check it out, hopefully they’ll have something to use.
Re the fertilisation, the compost itself has 6 months worth of slow release fertiliser apparently, can I fertilise too much if I add more? I’ve been wondering about that. I have some fantastic organic seaweed based fertiliser, I’ll be getting that out this evening once the sun has moved.
Thanks also for the info about the peas and beans. I’ll be off looking for some respectable sticks over the next day or two.
It’s so exciting gardening isn’t it. I’m happy to hear about your brother-in-law’s mother-in-law, lol, as I’m so new to this it’s great to read of someone’s success.
Thanks again Kathryn, I really appreciate your help.
Bye for now
Amanda
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A good fertilizer for capsicum (bell peppers) is epsom salt – it’s natural and relatively inexpensive. Put a teaspoon or so on every month to boost growth and production.
This is really a friendly sales call –
A few of us who live in the city of Chicago are trying to grow heirloom vegetables on our rooftops in cheap homemade earthboxes. It sounds more than a little preposterous to suggest that what we’re doing is a real solution to the huge environmental problems we’re facing, but it might be a tiny piece. We think they’re a great way to build connections in a fragmented social/political landscape.
Not selling anything, I’m giving “it” away.
Here’s the Flickr link, along side the pics is a little how-to guide with plenty of links.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7458996@N06/sets/72157603652656573/
That looks great Bruce, thanks for stopping by and posting here. Hopefully it will encourage others to give it a try :0)
Hey Amanda, I came to look at your garden! It looks great! Right now I have all of my herbs inside, and then I got some plastic laundry baskets and heavy plastic bags to go inside the baskets to serve as my “big” pots for my tomatoes and bell peppers. I still have a month or so before I can plant outside, so it will be a few weeks before I plant my veggies!
Congrats!